I have to agree with Gamer.Ex, it that I don't consider EvE a game, and that changes how one views and uses it. I'm no EvE fan boy, coming and going over the years, but I have found ways to enjoy it. It most circumstances, it's been doing so with others w/VOIP. Can't say I've ever had much fun by myself. Even though it can be manic (bouts of extreme adrenalin only matched by periods of boredom), there's always SOME WAY to SIMULATE something. If I want to be a bad guy, I can be, if I want to manipulate markets, I can...If I want to try corporate espianage, I can... If I just want to pew pew NPCs, I can... If I just want to auto-mine 'roids while reading a book, I can... and sadly, if I'm an infantile who gets off robbing/griefing/annoying people of their hard earned ships and isk, I also can. I've lived in high-sec, null-sec, and class 6 wormholes... there is pros & cons to all. It's what you make of it, because EvE's devs sure as hell aren't going to simple give you prepackaged fun.